January Transfer window

[chaddyrovers]

16 hours ago, Ricky said:

I know you were happy to wait until the end of the window for signings Chaddy, something that most, including me, thought was the wrong call due to the number of key games in January (2 of which we’ve just lost). Has your view changed now due to the injuries?

Of course I would always signings in early as we all like but January transfer window is crap tbh..most major transfers later until you have money to buy quality. 

Hindsight is wonderful thing but we knew before January what we wanted which were quality striker and wideman with pace. That's hasn't changed. I'm surprised we haven't brought in that wide man but give Wallace and Schlupp arent coming now. Hence why we move on Kargbo now. 

Quality striker is always going to the problem in January, unless you spend 5-10 million pounds on one. I think Eustace will want Bamford in if we get Kargbo in. Tho if Bamford doesn't happen then I expect Danns or Scarlett in on loan, or even low fee striker signing like Callum Robinson or Emil Riis 

16 hours ago, Ricky said:

Also, I’m assuming that you are starting to share the concern of the group that we may not get the quality we need through the door.

No, not at the stage. After weekend, the transfer chaos will start. 

16 hours ago, Ricky said:

You mentioned BBD and Szmodics as examples of us bringing in championship players, I can’t see them splashing £7m or so on a striker. I wonder if they didn’t realise that players could leave for free at the end of the contract and that £7m would be lost. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit, especially if the rumours of them not knowing about relegation are true.

When I mentioned BBD and Szmodics was in context of them improving massively their goal record whilst here

15 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Young Chaddy

Young chaddy? 😂😂😂

[Fraserkirky]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Quality striker is always going to the problem in January, unless you spend 5-10 million pounds on one. I think Eustace will want Bamford in if we get Kargbo in. Tho if Bamford doesn't happen then I expect Danns or Scarlett in on loan, or even low fee striker signing like Callum Robinson or Emil Riis 

 

Callum Robinson, another one of those guys that seems to up his game against us. Sick of the sight of him over the years. 

Riis is a much better fit stylistically than Bamford, and a hell of a lot cheaper I would imagine. 

[RevidgeBlue]

5 hours ago, Polky said:

Have you ever read such a disheartening load of bullshit in your life?

The manager must be beside himself.

"Try" "aim" "hope" it's always jam tomorrow (which never materialises) with this chancer, never "We will" or "We can" do anything.

Instead of all that flowery prose signifying absolutely nothing he might as well have just given us the line he spins to the Fans Forum - "We're looking into it".

Looks also like it's going to pan out as I predicted yesterday. Couple of cheap short term signings to cover the recent injuries and the original priority positions which will cost more money to fill will be conveniently brushed under the carpet and forgotten about.

 

 

[booth]

4 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

Players and the manager are frustrated at the lack of investment in the team. From one of the horses mouths. I won't say who and I doubt that is a shock to most on here...... they are in the dark and it's a similar thing every year. Fadz did his best to act as a messenger. There's little faith in anyone above the manager currently and it does have a psychological impact. 👍

It happened near the end of JDTs first season when we still had a chance of the play offs. Ruined the morale of players and coaches. 

Imagine working hard to get a group of players raising their game then Jabba the Twunt and the worlds luckiest chicken factory manager stumble in like clowns and vacuum the life and ambition out of the club.

[roversfan99]

20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Of course I would always signings in early as we all like but January transfer window is crap tbh..most major transfers later until you have money to buy quality. 

Hindsight is wonderful thing but we knew before January what we wanted which were quality striker and wideman with pace. That's hasn't changed. I'm surprised we haven't brought in that wide man but give Wallace and Schlupp arent coming now. Hence why we move on Kargbo now. 

Quality striker is always going to the problem in January, unless you spend 5-10 million pounds on one. I think Eustace will want Bamford in if we get Kargbo in. Tho if Bamford doesn't happen then I expect Danns or Scarlett in on loan, or even low fee striker signing like Callum Robinson or Emil Riis 

No, not at the stage. After weekend, the transfer chaos will start. 

When I mentioned BBD and Szmodics was in context of them improving massively their goal record whilst here

Young chaddy? 😂😂😂

If we signed a random player in Serie B would you not be concerned considering you have echoed that Eustace wants Championship experience throughout this window that it clearly wouldnt be a Eustace signing?

When you have such a limited budget and prioritise domestic experience then you are likely going to get someone who is sat on the bench and/or past his best. Bamford wont be coming here as his wages are extortionate. Players like Thomas Asante and maybe someone like Jacob Brown would also probably be beyond us but even if you got someone of that ilk, they arent natural goalscorers and struggle for game time at clubs lower down the table. Riis seems to be second choice to Osmajic and has struggled to score many goals since a serious injury and Robinson will be too important to Cardiff.

If we go for a young lad on loan it is a bit depressing. Danns has barely played senior football. Scarlett has just been recalled having found it impossible to play at Oxford ahead of a striker who hasnt scored for ages, he would be bottom of the barrel.

If we have even a couple of million, the choices are to go for someone like BTA/Brown (not necessarily those 2) who isnt going to score that many  but is an upgrade on what we have and you know what you are getting. Or take a risk abroad where you do then have a chance of finding someone with a higher ceiling but also know theres a chance he could flop. So risk and reward. The first option is 3 on a dice, you could roll a 6 or a 1 if you think outside the box.

If we go for a young lad on loan on top of a Serie B winger (who has struggled to replicate his Serie C) and/or fail to also get someone in to help to cover the Tronstad void, then we clearly arent serious and wont have the capability to be in the top 6 reckoning. It will all come down to money and it is hard to have any optimism that we will get what we need. Buy a striker, buy a winger, loan a midfielder and loan a left back should be the order of the day.

[chaddyrovers]

14 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Its flawed logic to say well Szmodics and Brereton started scoring as if you can sign anyone and it might happen. They are the exceptions to the the rule. And even then, Brereton was very young when we signed him and it took years for him to do that and Szmodics whilst he had never scored anywhere near as much as he did had seasons where he had scored quite a lot albeit in League 1.

Fair points but also if the team is set up for them you will score more goals. 

14 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Obviously you dont know how many goals any signings might score, one who rarely has in the past might score loads and one who had scored lots might be rubbish in a Rovers shirt. 

I think BTA is more than capable of scoring 15 goals a season at this level and if he was/is our number 1 target, go and get it done  

14 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I know yeah. I am saying that there has been a lot of talk in this window about Championship experience. I am saying that if you limit yourself then its a smaller pool and a more congested market.

But if the head coach wants that and you keep saying let's head coach decides who we sign then which one is it. Give the head coach what he wants or ignore him? 

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Elliott Jackson confirming talks with Kargbo. Clearly not what the manager wants having repeated that he wants Championship experience so @chaddyrovers you might struggle to say otherwise.

Track record hardly says ready for a Championship play off push. All very underwhelming 

But he has the pace from the video I've watched 13 mins. 

From the links in the media, it's appears Championship experience is what we want. If we have switch to Kargbo then that's suggests we cant bring in what Eustace for whatever reasons. I would personally gone for Tyler Goodham from Oxford. He impressed me alot against us at Ewood. 

[roverandout]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Fair points but also if the team is set up for them you will score more goals. 

I think BTA is more than capable of scoring 15 goals a season at this level and if he was/is our number 1 target, go and get it done  

But if the head coach wants that and you keep saying let's head coach decides who we sign then which one is it. Give the head coach what he wants or ignore him? 

But he has the pace from the video I've watched 13 mins. 

From the links in the media, it's appears Championship experience is what we want. If we have switch to Kargbo then that's suggests we cant bring in what Eustace for whatever reasons. I would personally gone for Tyler Goodham from Oxford. He impressed me alot against us at Ewood. 

How can u conclude that he has pace by watching the same video 13 times?

 

Also bta isn't coming here

[jim mk2]

6 hours ago, Polky said:

So many weasel words in that statement…… close knit, togetherness, very limited January winter window. ..  hard working and honest …… summed up in one word: bullshit!

He must think supporters are stupid if he thinks we’ll be taken in by such a poor and, quite frankly, insulting statement 

And he gets paid north of £300,000 a year to come out with this crap. He’s 70, or thereabouts, and a multimillionaire who doesn’t even have the decency to live in the area. He should have gone long ago.  

[Paul Mani]

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

If we lose at the weekend with our depleted squad, it would further highlight how its not just a case of getting the right players in. It would be 3 losses on the bounce.

There’s no sane justification for not prioritising the ‘right ones’ based on the fact that the signing will see them play / have the opportunity to play 20 odd games, minimum.

Do I think a couple of forwards might’ve put a few of those chances we missed vs Oxford and Cov away? Maybe nicked us a point vs Burnley? Yes. But weirdly, even with the new signings we’re expecting to make, we’d still be short of numbers going into the Bristol  City game.

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Paul Mani

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Players like Thomas Asante and maybe someone like Jacob Brown would also probably be beyond us but even if you got someone of that ilk, they arent natural goalscorers and struggle for game time at clubs lower down the table.

Don't agree here. It's about what they do here. Gestede wasn't playing at Cardiff, moved here and score plenty of goals. 

 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Riis seems to be second choice to Osmajic and has struggled to score many goals since a serious injury and Robinson will be too important to Cardiff.

Riis has 7 goals this season. 

Robinson has 10 goals this season

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

If we go for a young lad on loan it is a bit depressing. Danns has barely played senior football. Scarlett has just been recalled having found it impossible to play at Oxford ahead of a striker who hasnt scored for ages, he would be bottom of the barrel.

Scarlett has 4 Championship goals this season BTW but he is young and not what I think we need.

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

If we have even a couple of million, the choices are to go for someone like BTA/Brown (not necessarily those 2) who isnt going to score that many  but is an upgrade on what we have and you know what you are getting. Or take a risk abroad where you do then have a chance of finding someone with a higher ceiling but also know theres a chance he could flop. So risk and reward. The first option is 3 on a dice, you could roll a 6 or a 1 if you think outside the box.

We don't know how many they will score until they play here  

Yes risk vs reward question here. I prefer a striker who can make an impact straight away  

 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

If we go for a young lad on loan on top of a Serie B winger (who has struggled to replicate his Serie C) and/or fail to also get someone in to help to cover the Tronstad void, then we clearly arent serious and wont have the capability to be in the top 6 reckoning. It will all come down to money and it is hard to have any optimism that we will get what we need. Buy a striker, buy a winger, loan a midfielder and loan a left back should be the order of the day.

How do you fit into your 25 man squad registration when we couldn't only have 3 spots without Sigurdsson in it? 

[rigger]

9 hours ago, Trinidad Rover said:

The concise version: 

‘we won’t spend anything so can’t get anything better than we currently have. Players coming back will be the new signings. So stop whinging and accept your fate’

And cue up for next seasons, season tickets at the new bargain price of, just a little bit more  than last seasons bargain price.

[rigger]

8 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

How many goals would Messi score playing for the “ Treasure Island  “ that is Sierra Leone.

More to the point, how many would Gueye score ?

[rigger]

8 hours ago, USABlue said:

Loved lil Johnny Price.

On the left wing we've got Tony Field,

On the right wing Johnny Price, 

For a king we've got Ken Furphy,

Now ain't that fucking nice.

[RoversSG]

16 hours ago, Gav Mac said:

I just don’t get why they can’t just put us up for sale, they have no interest , it baffles me

My take is putting us up for sale would be an admission that they made a mistake buying us in the first place.

Currently, we are probably an immaterial item in their group financials together with that subsidiary that buys chicken feed or the other subsidiary that rents farming equipment that no one pays attention to. Out of sight, out of mind, no loss of face. 

[Old Codger]

47 minutes ago, rigger said:

On the left wing we've got Tony Field,

On the right wing Johnny Price, 

For a king we've got Ken Furphy,

Now ain't that fucking nice.

No, not really any more, like most that makes us smile

It's ancient sodding history, we ain't seen for a while

While Rovers fans sit patiently, scanning forums for who comes

The chancers kill our club each day, moronic chicken bums.

We spurn the chance to make new waves, the owners absent stare

Destroying, and wrecking dreams, pretending that they care.

's no mystery, but plain in sight, the VenkyWaggot slime

Is far too thick to realise, that every single time

They mess us up, and spread their lies, our club dies more and more 

Until they're gone, we might as well forget what football's for

And celebrate, however thin when victories are made,

Remembering the glory days, as Venkys make them fade.

We are the Rovers. Not these clowns. Together WE stand tall

Despite these morons, WE will win - COYB our call!

 

 

COYB! VENKYS OUT! Waggot - PLEASE just SHUT YOUR MOUTH!! 

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

This window was always going to go this way, the fact we're in the play offs makes no difference to the outcome. The taps have been turned off and won't be turned on again. 

[Mattyblue]

You shouldn’t be relying on ‘hindsight’ to work out that we fall down the table from Christmas onwards every season. Why does this thing seem to happen ever year? Bit odd, isn’t it?

Maybe it’s due to so many games with a small squad. Said squad picks up injuries, doesn’t get reinforced in January, we fall down the table.

Repeated ad nauseam.

[Ossydave]

Waggott would probably have been better staying quiet than issuing that 'statement', talk about insulting people's intelligence. But then again that's how he views us, he thinks we're all thick as pig shit neanderthals from a northern shit hole.

How on earth do people attend these fan forums etc and sit in the same room as this man without completely losing it? I simply couldn't do it.

[Mattyblue]

And I actually pay money out of my own pocket to an organisation that sees the set up he heads as a ‘friend’, ergo the only conclusion of such a descriptor is that he’s someone they feel they can work with for the betterment of Blackburn Rovers.

More fool them (and more fool me for still paying it).

[roverblue]

Steve Waggot is like a caricature of a used car salesman. Can’t stand the guy and makes my skin crawl when I read his nonsense or see him speak. Doesn’t give a single shit about rovers.

[Hullrover]

6 hours ago, roverandout said:

How can u conclude that he has pace by watching the same video 13 times?

 

Also bta isn't coming here

Watching on speed up.

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

There’s no sane justification for not prioritising the ‘right ones’ based on the fact that the signing will see them play / have the opportunity to play 20 odd games, minimum.

Do I think a couple of forwards might’ve put a few of those chances we missed vs Oxford and Cov away? Maybe nicked us a point vs Burnley? Yes. But weirdly, even with the new signings we’re expecting to make, we’d still be short of numbers going into the Bristol  City game.

 

Obviously quality is the thing you have to prioritise. Im just saying that timing still has some importance aswell. 

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Don't agree here. It's about what they do here. Gestede wasn't playing at Cardiff, moved here and score plenty of goals. 

 

Riis has 7 goals this season. 

Robinson has 10 goals this season

Scarlett has 4 Championship goals this season BTW but he is young and not what I think we need.

We don't know how many they will score until they play here  

Yes risk vs reward question here. I prefer a striker who can make an impact straight away  

 

How do you fit into your 25 man squad registration when we couldn't only have 3 spots without Sigurdsson in it? 

We have some other non performers in there who I would happily sacrifice if it meant getting what we need.

And obviously its about what anyone does here. 

[wilsdenrover]

Is everyone ready for another day of disappointment?

[arbitro]

2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Is everyone ready for another day of disappointment?

I'm certainty not my friend. My expectations based on previous years are as low as can be and stay that way. The vast majority knew of the urgency of new players weeks ago and with ten days to go we have next to nothing. Waggott was yesterday, in my view trying to temper expectations but anybody can see through him. 

 

[AJW]

FWIW I think the Kargbo deal will happen maybe over the weekend but I also think listening to Waggot that will be it from an attacking point of view , next signing will be a kid on loan from a PL team that is considered a utility player someone’s who can fill in at a number of positions in defence and midfield , I saw a link to a Villa player recently and I think that is the way they will go