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v Middlesbrough (a) - 11/1/2025, FA Cup R3


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4 hours ago, Tom said:

This was the team we faced that day, and we weren’t out of our league, don’t let anyone fool you about our ‘true position’ etc 

 

Agree with this.

We had a prolonged dry spell in the 60's to 80's but doesn't change the fact that we've spent more seasons in the top division than any other division, across our history.

We're literally the only team in English football to have won a major trophy in the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries.
And, despite being out of the top flight for some time now, we're still somewhere around the 12th most successful clubs in English football history.

I think some people forget exactly who we are sometimes, current owners and custodians very much included.

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3 hours ago, Andy said:

Agree with this.

We had a prolonged dry spell in the 60's to 80's but doesn't change the fact that we've spent more seasons in the top division than any other division, across our history.

We're literally the only team in English football to have won a major trophy in the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries.
And, despite being out of the top flight for some time now, we're still somewhere around the 12th most successful clubs in English football history.

I think some people forget exactly who we are sometimes, current owners and custodians very much included.

And many so-called fans as well.

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3 hours ago, Andy said:

Agree with this.

We had a prolonged dry spell in the 60's to 80's but doesn't change the fact that we've spent more seasons in the top division than any other division, across our history.

We're literally the only team in English football to have won a major trophy in the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries.
And, despite being out of the top flight for some time now, we're still somewhere around the 12th most successful clubs in English football history.

I think some people forget exactly who we are sometimes, current owners and custodians very much included.

Read something recently, we are 10th. But a dingle friend said that's only because you won Premiership in 1995. Yeap, I said Champions of England in my lifetime, you'll never ever see that!

Sorry - still on the boro thread.

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3 hours ago, Andy said:

Agree with this.

We had a prolonged dry spell in the 60's to 80's but doesn't change the fact that we've spent more seasons in the top division than any other division, across our history.

We're literally the only team in English football to have won a major trophy in the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries.
And, despite being out of the top flight for some time now, we're still somewhere around the 12th most successful clubs in English football history.

I think some people forget exactly who we are sometimes, current owners and custodians very much included.

Couldn't have put it any better, especially the bit in bold. 15 years of Venky abuse has led to many in our fanbase forgetting who they support. Phrases like "I'm a realist" and "this is our natural level" are nothing but coping mechanisms. We will be back as a club once all the poison has been flushed out.

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6 hours ago, Cherry Blue said:

Read something recently, we are 10th. But a dingle friend said that's only because you won Premiership in 1995. Yeap, I said Champions of England in my lifetime, you'll never ever see that!

They're such a weird lot. Did they really think that 'yeh you've only got so many trophies because of this one great trophy you won' was any kind of successful criticism?

I mean, obviously it's a great achievement not something we won with a scratchcard, and the whole point of a trophy list is including the trophies you won, and even if you take it away we still have 9 major trophies, which would put us joint 10th instead of just outright 10th.

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17 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

One thing I did notice yesterday. You saw how weak our bench was but no Garrett or O'Riordan so they must be getting sent back out on loan.

Good point. I hadn't noticed that when I pored over the bench - what occurred to me was that the bench had 3 CBs for some reason (McFadz, Litherland and Pratt), which seemed excessive. Which makes Garrett and especially O'Riordan's absences even more conspicuous.

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20 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

The below is a few years old but no one else has overtaken us:

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Interesting side note about this list - every single club above us on there is currently in the Prem.

The same goes for the all time Premiership table, where we sit 12th. Above us are, in order, Manure, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, City, Everton, Newcastle, Villa, West Ham, Southampton. Leicester below us in 13th are also in the Prem. Leeds, 14th, likely to go back up, Fulham (15) and Palace (16) already there. So of the top 16 on that list, only us and Leeds aren't in it right now.

It's not entirely dissimilar on the above list either, we're the only one of the top 12 not currently in the Prem, although after that the picture does change, with the next 5 all in the Championship.

It does all go to show that, historically, we are punching below our weight for quite some time now, to have been in this league for so long and never even reached the playoffs.

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