Think you are missing my point rg. Not condoning it - and I can only comment on what people have posted and what Mr B has said in the LET just saying remember the circumstances and who we where playing. Presumably from what you have said you actually witnessed it - but the incident although a one off as such is not unfamiliar ie reaction to an opposition goal etc not customary to an opposition fan. From what I have read it would appear the whole situation was badly handalled , however the ' antagonists' as such sound like they need a civil society lesson. If Rovers do raise an investigation maybe then these people will be told to do one and possibly charged in accordance. Hope this explains better

Seem ro remember the same being said of Duff ..... the rest as they say is history

Apparently didn't just stop at the ground and carried on on the trains according to a UTD fan here at work -lights, seats etc being damaged Also before everybody knee jerks and starts categorising people of the same ilk (Im a BB Ender by the way)- he has said in the report that he does not blame the BB End. There are alot of the more passionate fans who sit/stand there and has always been the case Now let me just throw in the Citeh game and then think about it. What if they had been UTD fans - would there have been any moaning then? Apologies to Mr Brotherston and co but this was a one off incident that he has explained and understands how the situation arose - remember though emotions where running high which the visit of UTD always raises and creates a hostile atmosphere.

Good points wakefieldrawks, and something that I always find mystifying re the attacking midfielder being asked to change his game to a defensive midfielder. Same happened with Dunn and Souness ... Why? As I have said before .. I am not a fan of this holding midfielder malarkey there are two in there that should know what each others strengths are and have the intelligence to read the game each match - There is nothing wrong with having an attcking midfielder in your ranks ... as long as everybody knows there jobs yous should be able to utilise that man for his advantages. This is evidently obvious in what Rovers are short of at the moment, we need some creation and flair - Gally needs to be given a chance as he has certainly shown it in his cameo appearances - then we might see what our strikers are effectively capable of. Build his confidence, give him the chance Sparky and then we can make a decision of yeah or nay - as Abbey says if he is no good then get rid but don't just let him fade to nothing before giving him a go.

Managed to sprint half the pitch again though with the ball didn't he before coming off though YSB Not one that was calling him as I thought he also had an excellent game (and season so far), but his previous antics go before him and have set precedence and he he did 'fall over' a few times towards the BB End. Personally, I enjoyed the match and I was more worried with our shortcomings rather than the defeat -was it just me or could the weather have downed the noise somewhat but the UTD fans didn't seem as noisy as previous times. Overall, as others have said looks like Utd have got the makings of the Utd of ' Old' and are far more enjoyable to watch than Chelski.

1864 agree with most of this expecially the tactical nous of Sparky - we needed freshening up after their goal so I don't know what Sparky was thinking off. What is the point of having them and waitinf until the last minute to bring them on. As with many on here, I expect more of the front two regarrdless of the minimal service they are getting at the moment - McCarthy has gone of the boil and Nonda is another Ashley in my book. They do not work as a front pairing. Their is a lack of directness and conviction - something I mentioned after the Salzburg game. Mokoena did ok for his limitations but is not the answer and his distribution is awful. What was wrong with Bentley - ddn't seem to want to pass to Bert. As with others thought Utd deserved their win and if neede looked like they could step up another gear if required, but they didn't need too. Overall the worrying aspect is the lack of chances and the few we get the composure to do something with them - yet another game with no goals AT HOME and the reality check in that we could have still be been playing now and not scored again. Againt Spurs - IMO Gallagher, Jeffers and Peter should start - I think its fairly obvious who needs dropping.

Bobski - that would mean you'd have to have 'O'FLING' on yer shirt

For all those doubters on the Wage issue - the Beckham 'image' would probably pay his wages anyway in increased Revenue The big question would be if he would be willing to take a drop in wages ... say £60k pw as DMTP as mentioned - Would be interesting to see what is morals are in this respect - as I'm sure if we where willing to pay the Welsh Wizard this then I am sure as hell they would pay it to Golden Balls -or should that be Blue n White Balls?

As with many others on here I am worried about this one. Can't see us winning but a gutsy performance may well see us play a little better. Will be interesting to see if Bert will be fit - Sparky may chose to play him in midfield and push BENTLEY into the center. Would prefer Jeffers and Gallagher to start ahead of Nonda and Mokoena as they are more attack minded IM Will we score ... hmmm Will we shoot ... hmmmm Will Ferdinand be on our side ... (again ) hmmmmmmmm Sadly another defeat 1 - 3

Totally agree here NEARREY - not a big Beckam fan really but would be a good ideal shortish term replacement/sidekick job share with Tugay rather than for the Right hand side berth Might not be as pie in the sky as some people think

So you don't like them either Bobski - no sitting on the fence for you

Same here Just don't like em we we are playing em

Appears to have something about him but still waiting to see what though.

Cool - game of 'Wall'ie anybody'

Agree talent they must have Den much the same as anything or to put it another way 'natural flair' - however out on the street what they get is freedom to develop and express themselves out on the street - learning the game comes as you grow older. This is part of the reason I am against academies - it becomes too structural for my liking - guidance is required rather than all out tutorial. Anyway, not about Taylor but Tony Kane. Our FD here at work is a big Stockport County Fan and said he had an excellent game for them on Saturday and has not seen anybody that good at RB at that level and is the best he has seen for them. Now itn might only be his first game and at a lower level but looks like it could be encouraging.

1 v 1

2 v 0 ROVERS

Do you operate on a different tandem on purpose or is it just normal as thats what would appears to be the case.

Den - I don't see it as Rovers fans having a complex (about Rovers anyway), but moreso worry as to why they are not coming at the generally cheaper prices compared to other Premier clubs and a decent performing team. As said before it certainly isn't just Rovers but shows more due to us not having fans replacing the non attendees - Citeh as are Boro are now feeling the affect big style which is what we (us Rovers fans) sort of as expected would start to happen. What you can guarantee is they will not get slated for the support like the Rovers, and will probably see more people now questioning the decline in Football attendances The efforts by Rovers could well be the yardstick for Fooball in general which could be just what is needed and for the better overall, but you can bet your bottom dollar they won't get any recognition for it.

Interesting theories on this but as a goalkeeper I always had players on each post and IMO it should be Friedal who calls the shots in these situations - so what has happened to a goalkeeper controlling his area? He will have the best view and should be able to dictate for the Rovers players to mark the men. He should have control of the situation but to me that does not appear to be the case.

Well despite the nailed on defeat that 95% of Rovers supporters knew would happen (I plumped for a draw hoping) just a few pointers that we seem to be missing. As we all know we where missing key players yet we controlled most of the game. Now no TEAM will function straight away so I feel afew comments are a lttle knee jerk due to the circumstances as there was a change to the team so effectively this became a new unit. As we all know time is needed for it to gel and become efficient which is why I feel people need to think about this before criticising to heavily as they need to be given a chance. As pointed out after the Bolton game my worry was conceding freely headed goals -and yet again we fell sucker punch to another headed goal - the third in a run in League games which yet again cost us points - 8 now in three games. In addition, my comments re our lack of ruthfullness has yet again been to our detriment - you can have as much possesion as you want but you need to do something with the ball. As a cerrtain god (GARNER) said yesterday - it was our own silly mistakes, lack of not closing down and the final ball that cost us yesterday - something that to me has been quite obvious in the last couple of games. This is what we need to get sorted.

Well seeing as my prediction that the Chesterfield game would be their turning point for the season ...looks like I have to think again. Was their defeat at Saltergate of benefit for us or could it be the last thing we needed? 3 games on the trot with no goals scored for us - doesn't bode well if it happens and two defeats in a row at home doesn't either. So do I go with what my head thinks and our record history down there - or do I go with my wish and hope Form would predict a banker away win - but this is Rovers and we all know the scenario...... and whenever I normally predict a win we get beat AAaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh..... Claret and Poo , its on telly , Wham bars on a losing streak, could we be on the beginning of a similar situation, Spammers in turmoil , corned beefers arriving appears to have upset the camp, historically probably the worst away ground for us to get a result , bubble blowers record has to end sometime. Oh bugger it ... 2 v 2

Oh look - reply works for you bobski Unfortunatley you won't have to put up with me tonight - will you miss me??

No not really (Wigan) Just nowadays just don't have enough free cash to justify spending on Football - made the decision as per last season that I will not be attending the cup games regardless of price. - except the European ones. On top of that - just had to fork out for decorators and new carpets at home and I am away this weekend. Also need to save funds with XMAS coming up and the possibility of us progressing in Europe. Is anybody else having problems with posting /replying to posts as it doesn't appear to be working... MODS??

I don't and I won't be there tonight