As above Colin and... We are Blackburn Rovers which = That it will happen

Was thinking the same True blue -also comments from Allardyce saying there has been a cover up after the Liverpool game because it was one of the Big Teams or words to that affect anyway. IMO - all instigating the same thing and not disimilar to Nelsen's comments - yet who do they throw the book at...... exactly Maybe JAL has a point with the cynical look at it. In addition, listening to the radio driving in this morning Keith Hackett head of the Refs Assoc is calling for more ex players to become refs and looking into it in order to 'maintain the standard' of refereeing we have at the moment..... Jesus I nearly crashed my car -'maintain the standard' WTF is he on!!!! - but then again why should I be surprised as he wasn't much better anyway as a ref.

Wish somebody had have done though - we wasn't even in line with Todd Didn't need to see anything yesterday - as soon as we knew Halsey the tw?T was reffing we should have known the outcome Another totally inept waste of space. Anyway questions need to be asked about or finishing as this game should have been over well before Halsey and his crew stepped in -personally I feel its time for Pedersen to feel the cold of the bench as he is living on the goals from the Utd game.

The customary 1-0 t'Rovers or 2-5 tonking like they gave us a bit ago

This was before the game RM, and advised of the changes he would be making citing to the fact they have more important matters without detriment to us

A wins a win but lets not get carried away. Blackwell interview on the radio implicated they were not coming to win the game and the Reading game at the weekend was bigger, also that it would just be technical matters for them to see how they could cope away from home if they got promoted back to the Premier. They made 7 changes from the weekend we made 2 - puts it into perspective really As for Emerton - who was he up against really.

beat me to it Shilito Sidwell (Reading) would still be somebody worth taking a look at. Who says we need to spend big - i'm sure there must be others in the Championship who could probably step up the level -question is are we bold enough to take the step? In addition there is are always others knocking around just waiting for a chance - problem is finding them

Tend to disagree here Rev - I have spoke about the FF with Glenn and SteB previously some time back - personally I think its overdue due to the fact this is what people are led to believe. Probably the best description of it I have heard - just feel it is inappropiately named ( its not really a fans forum) May not be top secret, but what there would appear to be is lack of feedback to those that know about it which makes peole think so - What benefit has it been?

Hence this bit FR

The simple thing is though, if you don't like it DO something about it. I wasn't there on Saturday so can't really comment but if affected that many people surely there were enough in numbers to get something done. Personally I feel this was out of order - there is banter but there is also a line and I feel this was crossed by a section of fans but now it has gone - so as others have said get over it unless you are prepared to do something about it. FYI - a Rovers fan phoned in to Century FM last night to apologise on behalf of the Rovers fans for the chants. As per many things in life - some people will understand others won't and similar issue will always be around regardless.

Mmmm...I have my doubts and I might be naive in my thinking and feelings here Philipl, but my reading of this is that they are expecting their core support to stay with them. Now the way things are going with Football at the moment I think we can reasonably ascertain that this would probably not be the case unless numerous drastic changes are made. This probably relates to most who have attended football over the years, but an interest in a Club tended to stem from a family relation(s) or friend(s) already interested/attending games getting you interested and into the groove and routine and becoming addicted for whatever reason. Maybe this might be the way forward, but IMO this will not generate the Fan with diehard loyalty , more the 'fashion seeker' and what I call 'one offers' as the statement on Charlton would suggest about ticket enquiries from previous non attendees "So many of the calls are from people who had never considered going to football before," - would be interesting to see if many are re-callers/attendees

Fair do's that you might only be 10 minute walk away DM but by paying you are accepting that the price is ok which is a detriment to the other fans and not just our club. Its just scandulous and obscene. People can put up with hassle providing the price is right - IMO the Liverpool game is too much and ridiculous as well but its more in line with 'todays prices' than what Chelsea are charging. Topic of discusion on Saturday was if any Rovers fans pay that price they want their head seeing to. I suspect not many fans will be attending, but to those that are I have to agree with what TND has said previously and although we can't stop anybody, suggest they have a rethink and boycott the game on principle.

One thing I do know I think it'll be harder than people think but reckon a close win ... 1 v 0/ 2 v1 In addition just posted a new ditty for Nelsen on the Song thread

Whoops sorry missed this(mods pls merge if possible) see other thread - just started one for him

What do ya reckon - to the tune of 'In the Navy'? 'Admiral Nelsen he comes from Overseas ...... Admiral Nelsen from the country of N Z ( zee) .........Admiral Nelsen he brings strikers to their knees ..........He's a Kiwi He's a Kiwi ' Don't ask me how, I just started singing this to myself whilst driving the otherday, and the tune wasn't even on the radio. Yes/No?? : whoops just seen othe thread (mods pls merge if possible)

Certainly was, with alot of Rovers fans walking out before and at half time.

Norwich at home last season

Interesting point there and something I have commented on before. However, its also one of my biggest beefs with the team/club for a while - its fair do's having the players but our reaction to the second ball is non existent. Time and time again we punt balls forward and nobody is looking for the knock on /return pass etc this include throwings and showed up big time last Sunday once Newcastle took the lead.

Didn't we take 7-8k when we played them in the cup?

The annoying factor too all this though, is why its taken any of them (bar the fans) to realise the problems. Fans have been commenting on it for past few seasons in some format or other, and have finaly said enough is enough. All the stuff coming out in the media and the official numpties is all token gesture in my book after the horse has bolted. Alot of the stayaways in my book will probably not bother now, or not as much anyway and that is now the diffcult part. The big mistake they are making is they are primarily blaming it on price, when in all respects its a combination of many things inc price v entertatinment (refs/rules/attitudes/salaries/atmosphere/sanitised football/over exposure etc.... add your own as you see fit)

Difficult yes SG194, but its all been about the timing. Rovers have been slow on their response and the fans have already departed - the difficulty is getting back into the regime and until the football improves I don't feel the price is going to make that much of a difference now.

In total agreement with you Paul

Something we have to agree to disagree on Personally a chance is one that makes the keeper work or should have been on target/in the net - not hitting a player /completely missing the net/ overcrossed etc

Do you want me to start laughing now USA? - seem to have been asking that for quite a while Seriously though personally I don't think people are over reacting - some questions have to be asked and the criticism being thrown at Hughes or whoever is justified - somehow I just feel there may be some good to all this and somewhere over the rainbow is our pot of gold or something similar if you know what I mean.

Not exactly chances are they though Stu Personally, I would rather have had two shots on target with one of them going in. One save Given had to make -One - doesn't add up in my book, the thingn is its not the first time -so how much longer do we give it as all we appear to be saying nowadays is it will come