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[Archived] Tugay To Pompey......
joey_big_nose replied to trueblue's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
a young lad with tugs ability lets see???10-15 m at least. Yeah it probably would cost that amount for a player on the market now. For me I’d like to see Douglas given a bigger role in the team next season, if Douglas was given the opportunity to play alongside a player like Barry then I’m sure it would be good for him and as a partnership for years to come. People have given Douglas a bit of stick, but remember for most of the games he’s played in he’s been played on the left wing and hasn’t done any worse than other players who have been picked in that particular position. A young player on the market, £10m easily. Douglas has come through the ranks and has cost nothing and has potential to be a good midfielder. Providing he signs the contract. It is impossible to compare Douglas with Tugay, there is light years in difference in their talent. A player of Douglas' ability is worth maybe two or three million and that is allowing for his development! If Toogs does go (not something I am veheminatly against) then it will change the way we play, not perhaps for the worst either. A consistent partnership in the middle is in my eyes more important than Keeping the Turk. Ferguson can play a decent ball, even if he lacks Tugay's vision and flair, and it will be him that Souness will look to build the team around. If we can find a decent partner for him in the long term Rovers will benefit more than depending on an in form Tugay to turn up every week. Which ever way you look at it Tugay will be no more than a squad player next season due to his defensive frailties and his age. To lose him would be a blow but hopefully will act as a catalyst for developing a new style of play and allow us to move on. -
[Archived] The 'alan Smith' Type
joey_big_nose replied to The1mattjansen's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
On the contrary, it seems that the club and the fans have stayed pretty loyal to Matt over the past couple of years. and smith has been loyal to leeds for the last couple of years. Its more a question of what happens when the chips are down, as in this summer. -
[Archived] Cole To Leave?
joey_big_nose replied to laughatthedingles's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Have to say though that there is another side to your scenario. Somebody would actually want to pay 1.5 million for him and match, or at least come close to matching, his 50k wages. I cant see that happening. -
[Archived] Cole To Leave?
joey_big_nose replied to laughatthedingles's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
exactly the point pussycat....since steadys arrival at ewood coley has be-reborn. and good on them both aswell. Just watched the goal he scored last saturay again on Rovers world. He really looks a lot more enthused about football than he has for a while, he seems really happy. If I was him I would be intrigued about what I couls achieve with Stead and Gally at Rovers. Both are excellent players, and with Jon he has already struck up a really good partnership- something he has not had since Jansen's injury. Cole will have a great crack at breaking the 15 goal barrier next season if he stays, and for the first time since Shearer left I have real confidence in the ability of our strikers to make a full contribution in terms of goals. -
[Archived] The 'alan Smith' Type
joey_big_nose replied to The1mattjansen's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Would you really stay at Rovers if you were a top class mid twenty year old player if they were plummeting into relegation? The whole squad is being ripped apart to cover debts, the fans are miserable, the management is on a never ending carousel of changes and pay offs. It is his career as well you know, loyalty is a fine thing but he wants to make the most of it. The clubs have as little loyalty to the players as the other way round- the right bid comes in and they would look to sell him, even force him out if at all possible. A bad run of games and all the fans would hate him, jump on his back, call for him to be dropped, insult him in the media. Where would he be then? A dried up journeyman with the sole consolation of knowing he stuck by his clubs side.... is that enough? To turn the tables where is our loyalty for Matt Jansen, eh? Most of us are hardly calling for him to be reintroduced because we do not feel he would be good enough. Sentiment is a very small part of it, we want results. We are only as loyal to him as far as he is useful to the cause, if you see what I mean- we have Stead now. He is the new golden boy, so if Matty was harbouring a deep burning passion for Rovers he might well find his heart broke. The club may well just leave him behind. Natural arrogance and self serving nature is not in any way linked with being a footballer. The reason that most footballers act in their own interests is because that is the way the game works- 99% of the people on this planet would act the same way- there is nothing to suggest they would not. It is a sad state of affairs, that I admit, but it is pointless getting on a high horse about it when we are little different. It would be nice if it was a little more romantic, but that would come at the expense of the competition and quality that makes football what it is. If Rovers were made up of only players who cared passionately about the teams they played for then we would be effectively playing the fans. Would they of beat Man Utd on the first of May? -
[Archived] Cole To Leave?
joey_big_nose replied to laughatthedingles's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Stop it with that talk !. Stop it now. I'll personally rip out Souness' heart and eat it if a swap happens, and we fail to get a left winger. I actually would not mind seeing Robbie at Ewood PROVIDED Cole stays and he is payed reasonable wages (for somone in his form I would say an absolute maximum of 20k a week). On the other hand Fowler commands at least 40k at Man City so I cant see him moving to us, especially as he would certainly (if sanity prevails) be behind Stead and Cole. Cole should not leave unless we are getting PROVEN quality. Fowler is certainly not that. -
[Archived] Cole To Leave?
joey_big_nose replied to laughatthedingles's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
I would imagine Yorke, Andresen, Babbel and Todd will all leave. Jansen, Gresko, Douglas and Cole could all go too. To be fair out of all of those Cole is the only really significant one, he must stay. Douglas could be a decent defensive midfielder I suppose, and maybe jansen could find his old form... not holding my breath though. -
Nice to see he still has a sense of humour! You have to say it is quite worrying that he dislikes Souness to that degree, it is a real rarity for a manager to rile so many of his players. On the other hand Souness has done a lot more for the club. On the top of my summer wishlist is for Graeme to acquire some humility (and some kind of tactical long term plan!), im sure the likes of Wenger or Strachan would of been able to (or at least striven to) nurture Dunn's talent rather than alienate it. Losing David has not been a huge blow, but in terms of what he could have been it was deeply sad. ps. what pedant has put in this "like you could have paid more attention in school" nonsense? Is it neccessary?
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[Archived] Brum. Preview & Predictions.
joey_big_nose replied to Alan75's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Taylor has been shocking at rightback, but then I can hardly see Douglas turning him inside out -
[Archived] Brum. Preview & Predictions.
joey_big_nose replied to Alan75's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
I realize that Brum have had a good season, but does anyone else think that Robbie Keane and Geremi might be a little bit out of their league? I just have a feeling that Tiny will play and will be solid at the back in a 2-0 Blues victory. Sure hope I'm wrong, but at least Rovers don't need a result from this one to avoid relegation. Im not sure about that. Bruce is ambitious and has a long term plan. If Spurs were willing to sell I think Keane could be convinced. You have to take your hat off to the Brum staff. Personally we are not playing for much more than prize money (important as it is) so I think Souness should make some tweaks for creativity's sake: Cole Stead Tugay Gresko Emerton Flitcroft Gray Short Nissa Reid Enckleman Wont happen though, fully expect the team that started at Spurs to line up again. -
[Archived] Chelski Transfer Madness
joey_big_nose replied to joey_big_nose's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
that is quite simply insane. We might see duff back in the Blue and White halves one day yet. Alienation doesnt seem to be something Roman cares about... -
INFLATABLES (Tickertape) For Tottenham !
joey_big_nose replied to 1864roverite's topic in Messageboard Gold
You mean I am going to have to leave all my knives, bombs and darts at home? Its a bloody nanny state I tell you.... -
[Archived] Chelski Transfer Madness
joey_big_nose replied to joey_big_nose's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Further problems surface. Lunatic wage structure riles Chelsea's best player- Frank Lampard. I want more cash I think Ambrahimovic (however you spell it) might throw him out for that. By his own reasoning he is going to get David Beckham, why do you need Lampard? I pity what ever manager takes over at the Bridge. -
[Archived] Chelski Transfer Madness
joey_big_nose replied to joey_big_nose's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
I dont believe phillipl suggested either of the above alegations. Those are your interpretations and I presume are hypathetical queries. okay, i withdraw the comments. I dont know whether the lad's cash is dodgy or not, it is just questions have been raised in the press and I was wondering if (if it is the case that he has funny money, which i dont know) Putin would have the power to pull him up and out of the UK. Purely hypothetical, innit? And I wasnt insinuating anything either. Is that enough disclaimers? -
[Archived] Chelski Transfer Madness
joey_big_nose replied to joey_big_nose's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
fair enough, I see your point. It makes sense if the money laundering/profile seeking element is a higher priority than actually winning trophies. If he was trying to win the Premiership on the other hand messing the squad around so much probably isnt a great idea. Eventually players wont want to come to the club and the manager will have a complete nightmare trying to settle the side down. Just out of interest what would happen if Putin prosecuted Roman for misappropriated funds or something like that? Could he be extradicted and the money be withdrawn from the club? Could he be challenged to account for the source of his cash by the UK government? Is he paying UK income tax (that would pay for a few schools on its own!)? -
Just thought it might be worth pointing out because when these stories emerge they usually happen in regards Chelsea. If these sort of transfers happen over the summer then there are going to be a lot of available players knocking about on the relative cheap. Any fringe player at Stamford Bridge seems to be finished so Gronkjaer, Zenden, Melchiot and even Cole and Hasslebaink could well become available. Duff, Crespo, Lampard et al might just be thinking that Roman is actually taking the ###### now too despite being established first teamers. The managers on the way out before he gets to finish a great run in the Champion league and go for second, and no one knows where they stand. Im beginning to smell trouble at the bridge.... link
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I think Blackburn Rovers are at the pinicle of their current potential. To say that Souness has taken them as far as he can means that he has to be replaced, and someone else come in! This would be almost impossible! If you look at the type of side that we are, it is impossible to argue that we deserve to be in a better position than we are. As is acknowledged by all managers in the premiership at some point, any team can beat anyone on their day. The difference between the clubs from 6th to 17th is very little, and this only goes to prove the point. Last season it was us and Everton who were at the top of the mid table sides, this season it is Villa, Charlton, and Fulham. What Souness has done for us is ensure that we have Premiership football for another season. He has weathered the storm I believe, and will go into next season having learned from the last. To say that this season has been a failure is over the top. Priority number one is all but achieved. Cups will be played for again next season, but dropping down a league is the only thing in my book that would constitute a season of failure for Rovers. That isnt going to happen, so we have avoided disaster. What the club really needs at this point is continuity; a change in manager would disrupt what is an evolving team. If you look at the events of last summer with Duff and Dunn leaving, a period of transition was almost inevitable. Souness may have cut it fine, but he and the team have succeeded in keeping this club in a position where it has the potetial to grow. In my eyes we are still a season or two off stepping it up a level. Yes we were in Europe last season, but we are clearly not a club that can compete at that level yet. Souness recognises that all that is important for Rovers is to be in the Premiership. That is all Blackburn can and should aim for at the moment. A change of manager therefore would be harmful. Souness is keeping us at the top of our current potential and fulfilling the goal that is required of him. Consistency and a long term plan is what is required. We saw the problems created by short term goals after we won the league. Business guru and allround wise one Jack Walker saw the fact that Rovers won the title a year too early. Establishing ourselves as a Premiership club is goal number one. Aiming too high has huge implications, as we have seen from Rovers disgruntled home support this season, having a negative effect on home form. Souness is the man to keep this club moving up. His resignation would be a disaster for Rovers. What an excellent post, one which I sort of both agree and disagree with. I agree with the principle that Rovers need to develop- we have class players in every position bar the left of midfield (one which will hopefully be addressed in the summer), indeed in terms of pesonnel we are superior to a large amount of teams above us. We have been unlucky with injuries and underperformance in vital areas- Emerton stands out particularly being our main midfield attacking threat. On the other hand it is hard to say Souness is committed to a long term strategy of development, and the aim to compete regularly in the top six- going for the grail of Champions League qualification. He said it himself, if you stand still you fall behind. Fair enough, injuries and so forth have made a nonsense of a consistent team, yet he dosnt give off the air of man who knows where we will be in two years. Frankly we need a core squad of 14-16 players who are committed to the club and sufficently talented to consistently secure a top eight finish. People will cry this is ridiculous optimism but I will point to the players at our disposal. We have to have confidence in our own ability and the question is whether Souness does. Does Souness think himself calpable of taking us that far, and if he does how does he expect to achieve it? There are a lot of teams on a similar footing to us (Villa, Charlton, Fulham etc.) but the one who is going to make the step up to join Newcastle and Liverpool is going to be the one who wants it most, and is the most prepared to do it. Top Eight class Players: Friedel, Niell, Amoruso, Short (getting on a bit), Nissa, Gray, Thompson, Ferguson, Emerton (if he pulls his bloody finger out!), Tugay (getting on a bit), Stead, Cole, Gallagher. A decent left winger and we hit the fourteen player target. Hopefully younger players such as Reid, Donnelly (dreaming?) and Douglas can make more of an impact next season to take the reigns of the older ones. Top Eight Class manager: Souness?
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[Archived] Rivaldo For Notlob
joey_big_nose replied to jim mk2's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Cheeky buggers. I hear their sniffing around Prso also. Get your finger out Souness... And you have to say that if you were prso you would be more intrigued about playing with Rivaldo than say Barry Feguson. That plus the extra tickets sold and the vague possibiity of some Brazilain flair makes it an excellent signing. -
[Archived] Big Ron Forced To Resign
joey_big_nose replied to jim mk2's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Utterly amazing. I quite liked Ron in a kind of buffoonish way, his (un racist) abuses of the human language were very entertaining. I think perhaps that word that Atkinson so unfortunately chose to employ is now the single most powerful exclamation in the world. It ended a career. One word, not even said on air, ended a career. Incredible. -
Im not sure when we are trying to pick up the points to survive the fans having a go at the manager publicly in the stands is a good idea. We have only got six games left and we need to raise the team rather than disspirit them. IU agree Souness needs to go though.
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Funny that you should bring up Rover 6's early posting career, I had just been noticing his mellowing on the old Souness out mantra. Its still there mind. My own opinion is that Souness' has done little that is drastically wrong, his tactics, transfers and so on have been on par or better with most other mid table teams over the last two seasons. He has never on the other hand made a team that copes well in a fight like we are now (which seems odd when compared to his personality). That is the central problem- we cannot grind things out. We prefer controlled possesion footbal but we dont have the personnel (mostly due to injuries, but the lack of a left sided player is a big issue) or the confidence to suceed in it. Man management has recently been a bit dubious with the COle/Yorke thing and some funny comments by Short, and more importantly than anything Souness not actually looking in full control himself. He looks quite rattled. Some of the attacks made on him by some board members seem unfair, yet my confidence in him is shaking.....
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Tashor, im Impressed!
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If I was Souness I would be intrigued about what I could achieve with a young talented squad. Ferguson, Thompson, Niell and Emerton are all at their or reaching their peak with at tleast five seasons of football left in them. Also they are proven top class players who provide experience to the team. Gallagher is going to be a top class striker, there can be little doubt about that, while Steadinho is full of promise. Fiedel is much older than the rest but as a keeper would be hoping to play at the top level into his late thrities Gresko, Nissa and Todd all have a few seasons left in them (in Nissa's case, quite a few!) and have variated in form- but ultimately have looked capable of cutting it if they settle down. Add to this exciting youth team players like Johnson, Danns, Douglas and most importantly Donnelly and we have a great future. Look at the side- Steadinho Gallager Thompson Emerton Donnelly Ferguson Gresko Niell Nissa Todd Friedel Out of those only Donnelly and Stead are untested at Premiership level. And while question marks would hang over Nissa and Gresko both have enjoyed excellent games for the club and hopefully will find their form. An addition of a young left winger (downing? we have been connected to him) and we would look good. If I was Souey I wouldnt be able to resist it- especially as all the players would have been brought to the club or come up through the academy under him. The average age can only be about 24!
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Souness is hardly tactically naive, if anything he is too much of a purist. He is trying to establish a team that can compete with the big teams in terms of style and ability and he managed that last term. This has however come with the sacrifice of the 'killer instinct'. We would of been in the Champions league last season with a top goal scorer, whether it was Cole living up to his billing or even Robbie Keane. We are suffering because we arnt competing- in terms of talent in the squad we are easily in the same bracket or better than Charlton or Fulham. We have been unlucky with injuries to our most creative players, something you cannnot blame Souness for. Ask yourself this, at the start of the season who would of not swapped their manager for our Graeme? Only the top three and arguably Charlton, Newcastle and Southampton- even Liverpool would of taken him back......
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I think even the most pessimistic Leeds fan would anticipate getting at least £4 million for Smith. Birmingham would pay that in a shot so its up from there. I cant think of a club in England who wouldnt be interested- Arsenal, Man U, Newcastle are all actively looking for strikers. If it is a fire sale then I would think around £25 million at least for the squad could be raised. Milner would certainly be an interesting target.