Bit of imagination regarding defence: Robin Knoche, 28, consistent back-up centre back for Wolfsburg, free agent now seemingly due to the ongoing global bastard affecting club incomes. Daniel Schwaab, 31, I recommended last year, still a free agent, although unsure why. Risk? Also Victor Ruiz, 31, just left Besiktas after a decent season there, similar financial reasons to Knoche. Ezequiel Garay, 33, now a free agent leaving Valencia. James Chester, 31, on loan at Stoke last season from Villa, now a free agent. Ryan Shotton, 31, free agent from Boro, surely a shoo-in for Mowbray? Grant Hall from QPR, 28. Robin Bormuth, 24, I'm sure has been suggested before from Dusseldorf? Now a free agent. Plenty of options in the free market alone imo.

Golf again: Handicap down to 11 (10.7) after my best ever round of 83 at the 70-par Accy course.

Anything yet? A meeting with the player last Friday sounds like we're further along than a bid?

Weird they'd say it didn't happen so definitively if it did, unless the club is keeping quiet lest they be accused of tapping up? Any update? Whiteman excites me, strikes as what Bradley Johnson was 5-10 years ago.

LiveLancs saying rumour of a meeting with Whiteman was untrue. Interesting how that came about then. Bond is an interesting option for GK, not one I'd thought of, but appeals imo.

That's different from them actually not existing. Could such a thing as 'Plays in the PL' clause exist? Would account for promotion OR being sold to a PL club?

OH WEY OH! Instrumental in our L1 season spine of Raya, Mulgrew, Smallwood, Dack, Graham. Unfortunately not able to hack it in the Championship. Played his part well just when we needed it.

Think about it.

Moved into the ST thread.

I liked that ?

Kit thread, folks. Not the ST thread.

Danny Graham isn't a legend, but he's made a massive and positive contribution to our club. Same league as Hignett, Short, Rhodes, Mimms, Samba, McCarthy, Todd, Warnock, Thompson, Gallacher etc

Thinking aloud: 'Not clear on budget' doesn't mean he doesn't know his minimum. Eg: Has £2m-£5m to spend. Needs clarity on exactly where the budget lies but can definitely spend £2m. *Figures entirely hypothetical to explain the point.

Luton's bench is interesting, I've wanted LuaLua, Moncur, and Mcmanaman here at various points. Also, is it the same Matty Pearson we had here?

I'm inclined to agree (as a Clough obsessive). Neither was as good without the other, but together they were tenfold the sum of their parts.

My best ever round this morning, 83 gross at Accrington GC! Unfortunately means my handicap is now 11, so have to keep up that level of golf!

Had to experiment with some lamps at home to work this out ? Ignore switch 1. Flip switch 2. Flip switch 3, leave a while then turn off. Light on = switch 2. Light off and hot = switch 3. Light off and cold = switch 1.

Fair point. As chaddy also noted earlier, his no longer owning Sky is a massive loss to his influence.

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Specifically those papers, no negative. I only read them and the Guardian. However the Murdoch ownership issue (of various media outlets) has had huge negative impact imo.

Even without brackets, you do the multiplication before the addition.

Yep, 2 widely read papers among the working and the middle class respectively. Thankfully the Sun is experiencing lower and lower readership.

Probably still has tbf.

Saw the thread title, disappointed there are no good books being recommended

It's so that a bet covers scores definitively. So 'over 7.5 goals' means 8 goals or more would win, but 7 goals or less wouldn't.