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Was just going to put something similar about Sheff Wed. Just noticed that members prices start from £23 and 'Gold' members get bigger discounts. Meanwhile nailing away fans for £33. Is there anything stopping Rovers charging £20 for home members and £30+ for all away fans? Would certainly provide a bigger incentive to join the 1875 club if you were saving £10+ on all home tickets.
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Rovers' mouth piece - the LT
JHRover replied to Wing Wizard Windy Miller's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Any manager that delivers 6 defeats in 7 at any professional level is going to attract criticism and begin to have his position questioned or doubted. You've only to look at the stick Parkinson is getting at Bolton or Cook at Wigan where circumstances have arguably been far more difficult than they have here yet their fans are completely fed up with it. PNE lot were calling for Neil to go after the first few months of the season yet now are worrying about him being poached and Dingles were after potting Dyche before Xmas and no doubt will be again if they go down. Welcome to the world of football! If you can't handle criticism or questions about futures when plummeting down the division and losing every week you should probably go and watch another sport because I don't think any club in the top 4 or 5 leagues could go on a long losing run and not see stick towards the manager. For some reason it is seen as 'loyal' or 'superior' to attack or ridicule anyone who expresses concern or doubt. I haven't reached a stage where I've sought for Mowbray to go and hope I don't reach that stage any time soon, but I am going to criticise him when we perform as we have recently, and nor am I going to go round calling people pathetic who do have big doubts about him. Delighted we ended the run with a win on Tuesday but if we go on another 6 game losing streak the one looking daft will be Smith. -
Just looking and Reading have some tough games to come - away at Stoke, Hull, Norwich, Bristol, Middlesbrough and home v West Brom, Preston, Brentford and Birmingham. Pretty tough run in there.
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Still no news on the Birmingham points deduction? Rumour was that the League were seeking a 12 point deduction which if imposed now would dump them right into the middle of the relegation fight.
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Last night so important with Millwall and Rotherham picking up surprise wins this week and Reading enjoying a bit of a resurgence. Looking bleak for Ipswich and Bolton but wide open for the other place - Rotherham, Wigan, Reading, Millwall and even QPR looking dodgy. On form Wigan must be very worried.
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Sheffield Wednesday away Sat 16th March
JHRover replied to SBlue's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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Cook won't be used to this sort of position. He's never managed at this level before this season, he's no longer a big fish in a small pond as he was at Wigan, Portsmouth and even arguably Chesterfield when they had a bit of money behind them. Apart from his brief spell at Stanley he's never really had to battle against bigger and better equipped sides. Observing the way he conducts himself on the touchline I can see one or two pampered players getting a bit fed up of his approach.
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Other Football League 2018/19
JHRover replied to SBlue's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Stanley took another big step to safety last night but still only 4 points off the bottom 4 but with a game in hand. Big match against Rochdale on Saturday. A couple of wins should be enough for them. -
Has Paul Cook ever agreed with a penalty against his teams? I can't stand the man although last night he and his team looked a pale shadow of the team we battled with last season. We question at times how much we have progressed this season but in Wigan's case they look well short of what they were last year.
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What a massive relief to get the 3 points, which should be enough to survive given the gap. With a couple of tough away games coming up where wins will be unlikely we simply had to get the 3 points last night. To get 3 goals and a clean sheet should hopefully improve the confidence. A few bold decisions by Mowbray, the inclusion of Magloire was certainly one that didn't fill me with optimism in the car on the way over, but very pleased to see him perform and come out with a clean sheet. On the downside I felt for the first 45-60 minutes we were poor. Going in at half time we were saved by the penalty but other than that we'd offered little. Only once we were 2-0 up in the last 30 minutes did we start to play some good stuff and looked like we were dangerous. Lots of work to do but given the circumstances with injuries and form delighted to get a 3-0 win.
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Can't see how, unless we've allowed the pitch drainage to go to rack and ruin over the last few years. We've had worse than this over the years and Ewood has usually held up quite well in it.
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You've a bloke like Waggott seemingly tasked with making cutbacks and balancing the books whilst you've unpredictable owners responding to a managers request for funds to strengthen the team. Hence the inconsistencies. We haven't any money to do anything but then the owners can turn around and throw multi millions into the transfer pot.
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I think they've been changed recently, perhaps following the Watford debacle, and have tightened up the regulations.
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https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-6---players/ Jump to rules 55.1.1 and 55.1.2 - a standard loan must either be a full season or half a season e.g. the time between two transfer windows. Any recall clause can only be included in a full season standard loan and can only be activated during the winter window.
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We can't recall the loanees. We're awful in the air regardless.
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Raya Travis-Nyambe-Williams-Bell Bennett-Reed-Evans-Armstrong Dack Graham
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We also seem to be forgetting Joe Grayson, who was also allowed out on loan to Grimsby. I mention him because he is one that Mowbray likes, having been given a few chances in the first team squad. So that's 3 that we allowed out on loan with no option to recall, including one that Mowbray likes/trusts and who would surely be getting the call now to play. I can only conclude this whole sorry episode has at least in part been financially motivated. I've heard some tales over the last 12 months about loan deals we have done or not done due to insignificant amounts of money so it honestly wouldn't surprise me if those lads had been sent out to bring in some loose change for a few months.
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I think ourselves and Wigan have probably suffered from over-confidence following promotion. Both managers probably felt loyalty to last season's heroes and believed they were good enough to coast to survival in the Championship. Both ourselves and Wigan enjoyed momentum from last season which has kept both our heads above water up to now, both have seen the rot well and truly set in although we had the benefit of a purple patch in January which Wigan didn't have. Both sides heavily reliant on home form which until recently was very good. I see more Championship experience at Rovers than at Wigan, and also our manager is more experienced at this level than Cook who is used to managing promotion favourites in the lower leagues rather than relegation favourites in a big league. Wigan have also had their takeover saga to deal with and less of a budget than we have enjoyed. As for Rotherham I suspect their fans are delighted just to be in with a chance of survival in this league. Completely different expectation levels for them having been long term League One/Two rather than Premier League.
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I think anyone would have expected either Mulgrew or Lenihan or both to pick up injury(s) at some stage between January and May if playing every week. Both are injury prone and always have been. Sad but true. Expecting them to play 3 times a week for half a Championship season and not miss any games is madness. Rodwell in a similar boat - his entire career based around lengthy injury absences so expecting him to come in as back-up and play 90 minutes on a regular basis is again highly optimistic. Even then he isn't a defender. Williams isn't a CB despite attempts to convert him into one. I blame Mowbray for arriving at a situation where we've 4 options for CB and none of them are really CBs and 3 are extremely injury prone.
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If we were a conventional football club with a transparent structure behind the scenes than I'd probably have lost patience in the manager by now, and would have no faith in him making the necessary changes come the summer. I'm not just unhappy with our results, but also our 'style' of play and clear lack of structure in the team. As it happens I don't think we are a conventional football club, despite what some people seem eager to believe, and as such I am continuing to make allowances for Mowbray. I don't believe the structure in place is really appropriate for a successful football club and although recruitment has been poor I wonder if Mowbray can be entirely blamed for that. I don't believe for one second that he was sat on a pile of cash all summer and then suddenly made up his mind to go for Brereton as his top target. He'll have had to jump through hoops for that cash and only have been able to spend it on a select type of player and deal. The remainder of this season is the time to assess and analyse. I don't accept we can or should just write off the next couple of months as going through the motions time and go into the summer in blind faith that something drastic will change. If this terrible run continues then Mowbray should be under immense pressure, particularly if we get any nearer to the drop zone. If we turn it around and go on to finish comfortable mid-table then we can put this down to a blip rather than something more serious e.g. him completely losing the plot as he has done previously in his career after a couple of years.
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Think you've hit the nail on the head here. Whatever money was spent on Brereton appeared to materialise late on in the window when someone in India fancied a flutter on a signing that would turn out a significant profit. Within the parameters handed down and within a narrow timeframe and on a deal no doubt staggered over numerous years and weighted on various clauses the market and time wasn't there for us to cherry pick ready made players. We all know that the money should have been used differently, I suspect deep down Mowbray does to, yet won't ever admit it, because his bosses set a certain criteria and wouldn't see signing a 28 year old CB who had been around the block as a profitable exercise. You watch Preston and Wigan come to Ewood and then think of how ludicrous it is that we have spent that money on someone not ready to play.
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Manager or Players to blame?
JHRover replied to blueboy3333's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Mowbray's comments come across as though he's some powerless bystander or he has just walked into the building and is having to work through with someone else's failing squad. We are led to believe that Mowbray has final say on footballing matters and it appears he has far more power at the club than most modern day managers or coaches who have to contend with sporting directors etc. There's none of that here, Mowbray enjoys the benefits of being the boss but also has nowhere to hide when it comes to responsibility. Recruitment, coaching, fitness all under his watch, nobody else's. -
I worry that we're making our problems out to be down to individual ability and wrong personnel more than it is down to coaching and tactics. Yes we need to strengthen across the board but I truly believe that our biggest issue is our team approach - coaching, tactics, fitness. I believe this having watched us concede far too many goals for 3 seasons regardless of circumstances. We've done it against crap sides, League One teams, with a variety of players and formations. Nothing changes. Whilst we would like Lenihan back and another CB its worth pointing out we were conceding regularly with him and Downing here. The trouble is that addressing tactics and coaching deficiencies isn't easy with a manager set in his ways. The easy way out will be to sign a couple and hope things change. I don't expect they will as I've seen nothing to make me think we will be solid under this manager. I could accept a poor defence if we focused on being an attacking team and created and scored lots of goals but we certainly aren't one of those.
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Its one or the other - either Mowbray had money yet decided to not invest whilst allowing numerous defensive options to leave - or Mowbray isn't being truthful about things and he didn't have money or wasn't able to use it or was told to let a few out for financial reasons. Either way it doesn't inspire confidence in the operation. If it was the first option then I'd expect Venkys to be having serious concerns about this manager given he declined funds and has since delivered horrendous results. If it was the second option then they're probably quite satisfied having a bloke in place who will put up with their nonsense.
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Get more money if we don't agree to a recall clause. Lets not beat about the bush on this one, its the most logical explanation. The decision to allow those defenders out without the option to recall I believe to be at least in part financially motivated.