Ref seems to think the players need to calm down, but it's actually him that does.

I actually thought we had been given a free kick at first. I was stunned to see a card come out and even more stunned when it was for us. Ref has gone card nuts now.

Pickering at LB, Brittain at RB. Why leave it til 5 mins from the end to do what he should have done with the starting lineup? All the subs too late tonight.

Sorry I don't care what anyone else thinks, not a red for me.

Very lucky bounce there for the Cov keeper.

We started the season with 3 wins then 3 losses. Then the W L W L sequence started. We have just won 4. I'd suggest a 4 match losing spree is more likely.

This game is crying out for Dack. If he doesn't come on soon and we don't get back in the game, it's going to be a serious blemish on JDT for me.

Well he certainly didn't help correct the deficit at the other end. Which now needs doing. But yes the main defensive selection error is Brittain at LWB and moreover Travis at RWB.

Uhh well. I'd probably say Hirst is a better player than Vale. That's probably not a compliment but it's as close as I can get.

The good news is we usually have one decent half in us. It can't have been that one.

Highly believable unfortunately.

What a tackle from Hyam, bone-crunching!

I look forward to seeing your plaited sawdust, should be quite the sight.

I'll have a stab at predicting the reply. 'Up to JDT who he picks in the 18, I trust the manager. Why don't you?' Etc.

I don't have a lad, stepovers are one sign of flair, it doesn't matter what part of the pitch you do tricks in order for them to count as flair, and he has a lot more in his locker than just that. Whether you think he is any good is up to you, but 'Never had any flair'? Don't be absurd.

It wasn't remotely true. The comment was that Dolan has 'never had any flair', which is absolute and unadulterated bollocks.

Yes we have. Kaminski was down and Brereton went down too.

For the amount of time he is on, I would expect nothing less.

Precisely what I was thinking.

Dack starting to develop a bald patch.

Yeh Wharton has misplaced a few passes today but overall we need him in there. Not sure about this formation and personnel switch, looks like we just want to shut up shop right now but I'm not sure inviting pressure will pay off here.

Worst comment I've read on here this year.

Harsh on Gally on here, could have done a bit better but that was a terrific stop from the Hull keeper.

A number of things being posted on the forum doesn't usually alter your view. Fans focussing 'too much' on Dack is absolutely and utterly inconsequential to whether he is good enough. Your last point proves my point.

Yes. It's just over 4 full games worth. You've told us all, repeatedly, not to dismiss players and managers based on more games than that, why is it enough to decide our former talisman isn't up to it?