Echo what Tomphil said .He hasn't done much in terms of numbers since he has been here and can only really be described as a regular in his time here.We got him on. Free transfer and he is likely to leave here the same way

Agreed that the contract situation is very worrying.But we do not know what these players want to renew. We need players in we are very short on numbers and personally I don't want Mowbray being given the money to bring in a handful on permanent as if a new manager is appointed next season he may not fancy them and will leave us with even more dead weight to try get rid of, and as seen in the past it's easier said than done, we end up paying up their contracts. If the loan signings help keep us in this division then they will be worth it.Our young players will get opportunities but the people who believe more than 4 or 5 of our under 23s will be ready to play this season then that are being overly positive

He signed for them when they where a championship club, has not extended his contract in that time.I just don't believe we will be paying the majority of his wages. Orta from Leeds said the move is about gametime and they wouldn't have had many takers if they expected the majority of his wages paying. Besides weren't you saying earlier in the summer we have hardly any money and can't spend and now you are saying we have brought in a Leeds under 23 and had to make him one of the best if not the best paid player at the club to make it happen?

He is only on 11k a week at Leeds?I doubt very much we will be paying 100% of his salary.So he won't be our highest earner I look forward to finding out who this Liverpool player is🙂

Have the people at the club that you know given any indication if a striker will be signed or not?

He wouldn't start Chapman anyway.Oddest contract renewal ever, I have no idea why Chapman signed it.Great cameo against Forest and Mowbray only gives him 12 minutes against West Brom

I'm not going to get into a big debate with you again over this.But one simple question is there many clubs making permanent cash signings this summer in the Championship? Even the free transfers, probably a hand full I would have been happy with us signing. One of the reasons we are in this position, is throughout the Venky reign,we have handed out lucrative contracts and paid transfer fees for players who were either sub standard or ageing with only a year left capable of playing at this level but we hand them 2 year contracts with a years extension. I am satisfied with loan signings unless money is spent on someone who is either a young player with potential and ready to play now or someone no older than 28 who is not injury prone. Most of us want the manager out so would be beyond stupid to want the owners to allow Mowbray to hand out more 2 year deals to 30 somethings who a new manager probably will want rid of

Totally agree what you say about the owners apart from the just covering losses part ,they have given competitive funds since Mowbray here and when we first came down agreed to spend silly money stupidly. But Mowbray has had a very big hand in the situation we find ourselves in.He will have meetings etc with the finance people and would have known were we stood. It was on his recommendation that lucrative and long term deals were given to the "men" in the dressing room only for 5 minute later the likes of Mulgrew on way out and we had to pay him for nothing for 2 years.Plus the decision to spend 12 million quid on two young players was on his recommendation. You keep making out we should feel sorry for Mowbray that we can't do anything in the market when it is his mistakes that put us in this position

Yeah the underlying issue is who they put in place to run the club, have never disputed that. My argument here is the people on the ground are the ones who got us into an embargo.Mowbray would have known the situation, there is absolutely no doubt about that.

How are the owners at fault for the embargo that restricted us? They employ people to deal with that sort of thing.The.people on the ground Waggott and Cheston etc are the ones at fault for that. Are you trying to say that Mowbray had no idea what was coming?I don't believe that for one minute.Waggot , Cheston, Mowbray and the rest working on the ground would know what was likely to happen. Mowbray says different things to the media every time he is interviewed.Just before Armstrong was sold he said in an interview that a little bit of money would be spent on a permanent signing. The owners are shit, they do put money in though that can't be disputed.They Pay the majority of the wage bill and have given money for signings every season that Mowbray has been here. The biggest problem with our owners is who they leave in charge to run the club .Most owners do not get involved with the day to day running of their clubs they put competent people in place

Same story with Longstaff https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-matty-longstaff-loan-21348396

They want him to sign a years extension before letting him out according to reports

Nixon saying Blackpool have had 500k bid turned down for Sale.Crewe want 1 million

I presume he means flew in(not from one of the Manchester clubs) and with his parents (young)

He played well against Forest and in the games before. Results are better with him in the side.He is a centre half playing for a mid table championship club not Franco Baresi, he will make mistakes as most defenders at this level do. Do you not think we have enough positions to fill after losing 12 players?We need players in the door not out

I'm with you on this.Hopefully we can pick up a win next weekend.Boro are beatable

There are worse teams and squads than us. We are not unique with having a weak bench plenty in this division have.Hopefully a few will come in before the 31st to strengthen the squad

Tommy Doyle who has been linked was on the bench for City today. Nixon been saying Liam Delap will be off to Stoke

Any word on a striker mate?

It isn't we have a years option

Apologies I misunderstood. But still with a young player like that surely fairer to look at his progression and improvements. He was playing in league 2 the season before,and 11 goals from a wide position in league one for Crewe shows improvement. I have never seen the guy play and agree with what others have said ,I'd be ok with it once he isn't Armstrong's replacement,we need someone else in .

Dale the lad being discussed scored 11 goals in league 1 last year.You said he scored once in 8 games???

He scored 11 goals last season? Besides Joe isn't recommending him as a signing which he stated was just informing us that Dales mother has started following accounts to do with Rovers

Showing imaginary players around the training ground?