Please do what Silvester should do rather than what he does do.

Oh no, don’t get me wrong - I agree with you about the quality of the player and how much he could have improved us. I was just trying to suggest the incompetence isn’t related to whether or not someone would think he would be s good signing. That being said, clearly this failed transfer is going to have a much bigger impact on the rest of our season (than the Rochdale lad)

To a point it doesn’t matter who the player was. It’s the sheer incompetence (and I include the statement in that) which is unacceptable (but unfortunately is not surprising)

He’ll be fine, he’s already decided whose to blame (Silvester)

I doubt they even know what they’ve done wrong. Even if they did, I doubt they will share it with us. Of course you’re right that they should do. (I was supposed to quote the post above mine!)

The procedure is in black and white on the EFL website, if I can read it why can’t they?

One last point on the statement - it includes ‘…the deadline for submission was late…’ The deadline wasn’t late - the deadline didn’t move at all…

Maybe they should have asked there their legal advisors as to whether or not it was within their control. As to the ‘complex nature of the various agreements’ - would these not be the same as with the Brereton transfer?

I hope that whoever wrote that isn’t in charge of the appeal! it’s almost as bad as ‘the dog ate my homework’

For those surmising whether the club was unaware they needed to negotiate the players contract in relation to the permanent transfer - paragraph 47.3.1 of the regulations states that a copy of this contract must be submitted with the other requisite forms. The regulations also make very clear which forms are needed for each type of transfer and are publicly available on the EFL website. i can’t believe the club wouldn’t know what they had to do, it’s all there in black and white. Actually, given the people at the club, maybe I can believe it!!

I’d omit the penultimate paragraph from your application if I was you or they’ll consider you to be overqualified!

The forms have to be signed by the CEO or club secretary (paragraph 47.1 of the regulations) there is no rule on who has to submit them. that is entirely up to the management structure (ha!) to decide (and you’d hope to ensure takes place in a timely manner - again ha!)

Inquiry complete, no further debate required…

@JHRover - that’s what I was trying to say you’ve worded it much better!

For those saying it’s not Waggot’s job, sure it is his job to ensure the competence of those who he entrusts with these tasks? I wonder what a Rovers performance review is like!

Why was Waggott in Birmingham? - other than to play at being ‘Billy big balls!’ This is on him and nobody else. Will these be enough for him to be sacked? - I’m not going to hold my breath!

Wouldn’t he have to wait until January to go back to Fulham?

I’ve done a bit more digging and found a report into the inquest of Mr Hargreave’s death in the Liverpool Echo dated 28/1/1952 (page 6) As it’s a subscription service I can’t link to it and I’m unable to get a good screenshot either. You may already be aware, but his middle name was Moses.

Hi Stuart, I’m into family history so thought I’d have a quick look on a website I’m subscribed to. I’ve found a burial record for a William Hargreaves aged 66 in 1952. It is for Pleasington Priory, St Mary and St John the Baptist, grave F.A12 and has Roman Catholic as this gentleman’s denomination. I’m not local so don’t know if this is the right place, but I thought I’d share it in case Hope this helps